Sunday, January 22, 2006

Carnivale

OK, ABC's Carnivale:

seems worth watching, if only as an example of how not to do a Tarot reading, i.e. what should seem so scary about 2 of Wands + Lovers + Moon (in the Rider Waite)? lol

14 Comments:

Blogger mythosandbios said...

I've avoided Carnivale. It has a reputation for being good, but it 'felt' too dark for my tastes. And, no I can't imagine what would be so scary about the 2 of W, Lovers and Moon in the RWS either!

8:41 pm  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Glad you commented on this bit... Why I post it as an example of how not to do a Tarot reading? Because the 'reader' turned EVERY card with such an air of doom and gloom, it seemed EVERY card had to spell doom and gloom!!! lmao

(Fun to see Tarot cards in a TV show at all, though) ;-))

8:52 pm  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Don't tell me you = another chronic 'avoider of the dark'? I get that feeling... While not quite as extreme as certain 'fluff bunnies' I have known, I still believe that to really appreciate 'the light', one must have equally loved, and embraced the dark... Talk about Jung, eat your heart out!!! While still in Norway, the light had become so inimical to me, through my embracing of the dark, or Shadow (as revealed in a dream), I had to turn around and re-integrate it in turn as a kind of 'quasi-Shadow'!!! Hence, I repeat, Jung, eat your heart out!!! lmao

8:58 pm  
Blogger mythosandbios said...

Anyone who reads true crime is definitely not an avoider of the dark. I had my fill of the novelistic/enetertainment horror genre with Stephen King and his ilk, so if I am going to explore the dark, I do so with real cases.

9:29 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Fair enough...I thought Stephen King just silly (except for Rose Madder, when he did get a bit more 'real'?) ;-))

1:29 pm  
Blogger mythosandbios said...

How about we agree to differ in our tastes. I'm getting a little tired of the snide comments. I am not a chronic avoider of the dark, I do not remotely rub shoulders with the fluffy bunny's of the world. And, if I was either, that would be my business and my choice.

You like Anne Rice - I find her dreary. That is okay. Different tastes. I like Katherine Kerr, you find it unreadable ... so don't read her. Simple.

I enjoyed Stephen King until I had had a gutful of the ookie bits, you thought it was silly. I'm allowed to like what you don't like, dislike what you like. We are merely different so please stop having digs at me either in email or in comments on blog.

Enough is enough.

I also don't need to be quizzed on the humidity or lack thereof in Australia, on the geography of India, nor on my choices in treating MY health problems.

I actually wonder whether you are conscious of the fact that you do this, maybe not ... but you do and it is very wearying.

I don't quizz you on the geography of Norway, or your interests in things that are of no interest to me. Why? Because I don't expect you to like what I like, dislike what I dilike, live the way I live, think the way I think. We are different, you and I.

Personally I prefer my friends to be different from me. I'm not looking for carbon-copies. I honestly don't think that you are either. I just think that you unintentionally cross boundaries and don't know you do it.

Why is the fact that you survive the heat without a fan, whilst I need one an issue for you to question me? So many things ... all little, but they add up to a fairly constant criticising and questioning of my right to be exactly who I am.

I don't know what you want from me Claire. If you want me to love wyrd-crossings like you do. Sorry, can't be done. I'm glad it gives you so much pleasure. If you want me to find moral ambiguity in Anne Rice, or to enjoy it ... sorry but I can't! I'm glad you can and that you love it and it gives you pleasure.

If you want me to be enthused by the Mayans or the New Orleans Tarot... sorry, but neither are of interest to me, but I am glad that they excite and enthuse you.

I like my friends to enjoy their lives, but they don't have to enjoy them in 'my' way, and I don't expect to have to defend my every choice, thought or belief.

I imagine that Gunter Grass, Freud (whom I loathe btw) Flaubert and so on are far more fascinating read in their original languages, but I can't read them in those languages so what is the point of of your comment?

The fact that Jane Austen is irksome to you is just fine with me ... I'm a Janeite. I love her work. I find her satire extraordinarily entertaining. So we are different. This is okay. I don't think any less of you because our tastes differ.

I like your differences ... I just don't want them imposed upon me. Are you aware that you do this? I really don't think so, because you have a beautiful naivete about you that is a pure delight, and so rare. Just please think before you write. I would appreciate it muchly.

7:31 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

OK, point/s taken *hangs head in shame at large dose of humble pie*

BTW, it looks like Usch might just agree to coming with me next Friday to fish and chips to meet Sebi (and company?), and to Tarot Cafe the next day, to meet you, so I hope that seems OK? ;-((

I did not mean to sound "snide", I really didn't...sorry *on the point of tears*

Really enjoying the 12th house book, btw, as I enjoyed the Chiron book... Should similarly blog some now? ;-((

4:44 pm  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Your post just revealed to me the 'inner meaning' of my Lovers card for today, btw, as in "duality: see what makes us different,and what makes us the same"?

And what you thought of "quizzing" I thought only "showing interest"...but never mind ;-P

The 12th house book also seems relevant to me, because its ruler, the Moon, in my case (Cancer on the cusp) seems unaspected... ;-P

*in tears now, but never mind; the thought of deleting the previous comment, once read, did occur to me, but in the interests of honesty, fairness, freedom of speech and expression, general integrity, etc. etc. I refuse to do so, and so my soul now lies humbly stripped and bare for all to see!*

Hope we can continue as friends, seems all I can say at this point, because I really do look forward to your emails etc, when you feel up to them! *smiles bravely and hopefully through tears* ;-))

In fact, like your own 'alchemical marriage' of Sun in Leo + Moon in Cancer, perhaps I also have my own, if more hidden, 'alchemical marriage', of unaspected Moon ruling 12th house, + Leo rising?;-))

4:58 pm  
Blogger mythosandbios said...

We are friends Claire, for me that was never at issue. I'm glad that the same holds true for you. I'm glad you are liking the 12th house book. It was a bit beyond me when I first tried to read it a couple of years ago. I didn't have enough understanding of my own chart.

Having so many signs in the 12th, and the identity of the author, who also wrote a book on tarot that I really got into, lead to me buying it.

It helps having a friend (you) who has way more astrological knowledge than I do, because when I get lost I can always ask. I enjoy our emails too btw.

Hope Usch comes to Tarot Cafe ... will she bring her goat? LOL! Gotta see this goat one day.... and of course, I'd like to meet Usch.

Seeya then!

love
shirl

7:21 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Not sure about the goat...tried to recall yesterday they already have one among the 'paraphernalia' at Dante's? lol

Wish I could actually SEE your chart, cos it makes it kind of hard to follow, just following aspects, but then Ast. for Windows won't let you copy and paste (I tried): maybe I should save it as an image? Hey, that might work! Then if you send me your birth data, I can draw up one for you, and return the favor! (A little synastry would seem helpful, at this point?)

Progressions and transits seem beyond me though... ;-P

8:23 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

Usch = a mad sid. Sagittarian (she just let me have a 'mad Sagittarian' drawing to that effect, yesterday!)

Su, a 'mad sid. Virgo' also has FMS, as well as 8 NDEs, but her FMS tends to the insomniac end of the spectrum, apparently: she only kept me awake chatting nearly all last night (on Messenger, lol!), but, on the cusp of the meeting of "Macbeth's 3 witches", I found myself 'dreaming' of 4 (Jung did not like 3's; he always preferred them 'squared off' to a 4)... What we DO all have in common seems strong affinity with Queen of Swords, one way or t'other! lol

8:34 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

So, if no one gets decapitated, that will seem a good thing? lol

8:41 am  
Blogger asgif666 said...

I couldn't help it, I had to check out current transits (the devil made me do it?), and it all seems, as I suspected, fiendishly complicated (where can you find an astrologer when you want one?)... Brain wave: visit astrology forum in AT??

(In brief, some of the more salient transits: sun sitting right on my Mars in Cap... ouch!, Uranus visiting Chiron, also in Cap, I forgot... No wonder they accused of "too much imagination" at work yesterday! lol)

11:29 am  
Blogger mythosandbios said...

In the Waite deck, which I know is not your cuppa tea, the Q of Swords looks like she is about to lop her own hand off.

Let us vow not to lop any of our sticky-outty bits aka extremities off either ourselves or each other? Sounds like a nice healthy non-violent plan!

My birthdata is 8:06am 31/08/1951 Camberwell (Melbourne) if that helps. I do have a jpg of a horoscope done on-line, but it is severely lacking in details. Oh ... and it's tropical, and I can't remember the site I got it from. Typical!

I occasionally hit the insomnia stage of FMS, but it is rare fortunately. It usually means that the pain is uncontrollable and I just can't get to sleep.

11:34 am  

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